Monday, October 14, 2013

Q&A: Yogas aquatic microbiology class 101


Q&A: Yogas aquatic microbiology class 101

Hello Dr.Kevin,
Hope everything is going well for you. I must say, your post on October 11th further enlightened me on how the eradicate cyanobacteria in the pond. I admit it wasn’t an easy read for me, and to help myself to better understand, I tried to break down the points you were delivering (according to my understanding and limitations) and see the relation between each point. Within some of the points I made, lead to some questions, which I hope you can help me out with. The points are as follow:
     1. Cyanobacteria will happen in certain times in ponds due to high levels of nutrients within the bulk water. The problem will be difficult to overcome when intervention is late.
     2. Late intervention enables cyanobacteria to become independent from nutrients from the bulk water.
     3. The hobbyist is to blame for the high level of nutrients.
     4. Cyanobacteria start to develop on surfaces where the bulk water is high in nutrients.
     5. Cyanobacteria spores end up where the flow is the slowest.
     6. The Anoxic Filter’s first function is as a settlement chamber, it is here where the spores and detritus should settle down.
     7. The Biocenosis baskets within the anoxic filter function as nutrient magnets/absorbers. Cyanobacteria will develop here and keep developing until there are not enough nutrients left, and then they will start to die off.
     8. To ensure spores do not settle in the pond, a good circulation must be created
     9. Good circulation within the pond, a good pre filter and the taking out of nutrients by the BB’s would increase the pond’s ORP.
    10. Limiting dissolved organic carbon by proper gas off and avoid using alkalinity controllers.
    11. Frequently rinse prefilter to reduce organics and carbons.
Questions:
1.    Related to point No.2, if our pond has already become infested by cyanobacteria, will an AFS still be able to solve the problem? If yes, is it mainly because of the settling of spores in the AFS or a combination of point No’s. 9,10 and11?
There is no way to stop cyanobacteria from infiltrating ones pond because the spores can be brought in by many different ways, eventually every pond will have a plague of it sooner or later and that’s just the way it is. Containment is the key word here and without containment then everything in your pond will get covered with it. The Anoxic Filtration System (AFS) does just that; it will contain it to one location by design. The diffusion of water going into the AFS serves many purposes and one of them is holding cyanobacteria at bay until the filters bacteria can use the available foodstuff that also feeds the cyanobacteria too. That’s why I recommend a good prefilter to stop any organics that could become another foodsource for cyanobacteria to feast on. Your AFS is still considered to be new or an immature filtration system right now and the chemical and biological processes are still not complete. There is a lot more going on than just the nitrogen cycle inside a Biocenosis Baskets (BB) unlike other filters; ion exchange is one of them. Other filters do this to some degree but then those processes are slowed down or blocked altogether as time goes on but not so the AFS. AFS do not clog so those ion exchange mediators never shutdown like conventional filtration systems do. You will get more to this question as you read on to the next questions.  
2.   Related to point No.7, what causes the depletion of nutrients? Is it the development of facultative bacteria within the BB’s outnumbering the cyanobacteria for nutrients, proper gas off (point No.10), competition between cyanobacteria, frequent rinsing (point No.11) or do all the mentioned contribute and have roughly the same level of contribution?
The nutrients you speak of are in organic and nonorganic ion form and the BB’ s are trying to use whatever ions that come their way inside the BB’s. But diffusion is slow and cyanobacteria growth is very fast comparatively speaking. Once the AFS bacteria catch up to the amount of available foodstuffs or insults that enters the baskets and pond then you will have more efficient nutrient users that then will use the available carbon dioxide, nitrates, and phosphates. All these ions unfortunately are a food for cyanobacteria too but now the bacteria inside the BB’s are too competitive and the cyanobacteria dies out form the overabundance of heterotrophic bacteria. Remember, we are talking about trillions of cells that have to establish a BB and that will take time for those nutrient users to compete with such a fast growing bacteria like cyanobacteria or purple photosynthetic bacteria. Think of it this way: How can you compete with something that can make its own food supply, to something that has to wait for its food to come to them first.
When the weather gets cold like it does here in the US, the heterotrophic bacteria go dormant until temperatures and food availability gets back to normal once again. However, in early springtime when temperatures start increasing very slowly and late autumn when the temperature begins to drop once again the heterotrophic bacterium slows down, the cyanobacteria now becomes more competitive and growth supersedes that of the heterotrophic bacteria. It seem that the cyanobacteria is not affected by temperatures as much as autotrophic and heterotrophic bacteria are. Better utilization of available foodstuff!  Forget about autotrophic bacteria altogether because now it is almost useless because of slower reproduction times becoming slower yet or stopping altogether. The BB’s are making N2 and carbon dioxide still and that is what feeds the officious cyanobacteria.
In your pond with the old filtration system like you had also made carbon dioxide (CO2), nitrates, and phosphates. But the bacteria’s utilization of such was not that good or made it as a byproduct and all went back into solution once again without containment. These available ions in solution now made everything in the pond an accessible holding ground for the cyanobacteria to live, multiply and feed on.
Heterotrophic bacteria will have a shorter reproduction time compared to autotrophic bacteria and therefore will out compete that of the cyanobacteria if given the right environment to live on. The AFS now provides that for then and since both bacteria use the same foodstuff the competition is too great for the cyanobacteria and the bacteria/cells eventually die or go dormant once again. This change of events will keep happening year after year with the change of seasons.
 If however you maintain a 70F˚ temp all year-round in your pond and the cyanobacteria comes back…then you’re doing something wrong with pond husbandry or overfeeding to the point that your AFS is too small for your pollution input and you are now overwhelming the filtration system with particulate organic carbon, organic and inorganic constituents. 
3.   Related to point No.10, from what I recall, within the biocenosis baskets CO2 is produced, but carbons are also produced in prefilter. So where is it best to gas off these carbons? Is it after the prefilter but prior to the Anoxic Filter, after the anoxic filter but prior to the prefilter (meaning waterfall and aeration in the pond) or both? For my case where there are biocenosis baskets in chambers where the flow has not yet been diffused, would it be okay to add aerations in those chambers to gas off carbons? Would aeration have any effect on the anoxic zone within the biocenosis baskets?
Carbon availability along with oxygen in the form of ions is there in the BB’s and is used as an electron acceptor by the heterotrophic bacteria. However, any excess is best to be gassed off in the main pond by air, waterfalls or agitation the ponds surface.
 Prefilter is just that: Mechanical filters that need to be cleaned before bacteria can break down the organic compounds and make more carbon to go back into solution. In your case, adding air inside any chamber/s without the BB’s would gas off any CO2 before the AFS, but this is not mandatory to do so. Once again this is also a two edges sword and gassing off too much CO2 can affect pH and drive it up to unacceptable levels without the CO2 buffering.
The AFS would not excise the available oxygen either and all available oxygen or most of it would go to the main pond for your animals. Cation: Do not use aeration in the AFS itself with the BB’s; you will upset the diffusion process of slow water movement in a wider mass and will disrupt the layering effect that's inside the AFS.
I look forward to your reply. One more thing, I’ve finally decided to buy an ORP Monitor, “American Marine Pinpoint ORP Monitor”, it should arrive by the first week of next month.
The Pinpoint ORP monitor is a good monitor; it’s too bad you didn’t have one before your conversion to the AFS it would be nice to see the comparison of the two filters.
 Thank you Dr.Novak,
Best regards,
Yogas 


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